tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post6982529842900939851..comments2024-02-23T15:34:32.816-05:00Comments on The Mad Fermentationist - Homebrewing Blog: Making Provolone... Ending Up With Feta?The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-48088664951076957582013-05-13T10:41:50.576-04:002013-05-13T10:41:50.576-04:00144 degrees is way too hot! It is what is causing ...144 degrees is way too hot! It is what is causing the cheese to crumble. Most recipes call for heating slowly to 112-118 degrees, no hotter.Look online for better recipes, the one you are using sounds like it has lots of typos and missing details. Try making Mozzarella cheese first to get the process down. Mozzarella is similar in process, but doesn't require aging. If at first you don't succeed..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-91891278372373297792012-08-13T05:32:48.801-04:002012-08-13T05:32:48.801-04:00YES! me too, twice! I am in Australia, and this b...YES! me too, twice! I am in Australia, and this book is the suggested starting point in this country too. Everything seemed to go well untill the 144'f point, where the curd seemed to stick to itself and form a big rubbery mass, like supermarket prepacked boconccini. It also seemed to loose quite alot of butterfat at this point. I kept the rubbery mass and used it in chunks on salad. It was ok that way. THANK YOU TO BRONWYN with a sucessful attempt at 118'f. I now have faith to give it another go-3rd attempt.<br />On the positive side I have done many soft cheeses and some mould ripened cheeses, together with 30 minute mozzarella (in hot water) which took about 2 hrs. I have also noticed alot of info missing, requiring further research.. I do not say that Home Cheese Making by Ricki Carroll is a book for beginners as it purports to be. I have found a citric acid plus thermophillic starter Provolone recipe for goats milk which I will also give a go, but I will use cows milk. I found the recipe at http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/Recipes/Make-Mozzarella-and-String-Cheese-954/Citric-Acid-Provolone-and-Mozzarella-using-Goats-Milk-934.aspxLucie in Sydney Australianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-71624058632669464652009-10-18T09:23:00.779-04:002009-10-18T09:23:00.779-04:00Thanks for the tips, now that the weather has cool...Thanks for the tips, now that the weather has cooled down I'm going to be getting back into the cheese making. It is a shame the editing is so poor, hopefully someone comes out with a great cheese making book some day.The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-28622591671298711972009-10-17T00:05:43.709-04:002009-10-17T00:05:43.709-04:00I had the same problem with this provolone recipe....I had the same problem with this provolone recipe. You have to make up your mind whether she really means 144˚F or whether she really means 2-3˚F every 5 minutes. I plumped for 144˚F, and it didn't work. Further research on the internet showed that actually it should be 118˚F, so the 2-3˚ per 5 minutes is about right. I've just done it like that and hey presto, it works. Should have known really - pasteurisation happens at 162˚F for 3 minutes, and that kills most things. 144˚F for any reasonable amount of time just kills the starter and it's never going to get down to the proper pH.<br /><br />I can't get over how bad the editing is in these books - I also have Tim Smith's Making Artisan Cheese; it is even worse. Two of the recipes are even missing titles.Bronwynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08347795137256267761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-50991548721899201652009-06-08T03:29:35.591-04:002009-06-08T03:29:35.591-04:00Seems to be a common thread with this book. I trie...Seems to be a common thread with this book. I tried the cheddar recipe and it came out like Caerphilly - very dry, crumbly and tangy. It was very nice, just wasn't cheddar! I blogged a review of the book here: http://blog.mattmacleod.co.uk/2009/06/home-cheese-making-by-ricki-carroll/mattmacleodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02747158414008143209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-50337340098761639542009-03-30T08:30:00.000-04:002009-03-30T08:30:00.000-04:00Sad to hear that the recipe didn't work for you ei...Sad to hear that the recipe didn't work for you either. I never figured out what went wrong on this batch. I've mainly just been playing with soft cheeses as I've had much better luck with them.The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-58240919428637337972009-03-29T22:28:00.000-04:002009-03-29T22:28:00.000-04:00I just tried this recipe last week and also had th...I just tried this recipe last week and also had the same issues. Well actually, I got to the step where the curds had to sit (still warm, in the colander over the hot whey) and do the stretching tests? the curds didn't stretch after 90 minutes.. more like smear. It wasn't pretty. I even did some research online before I started and found a different cheesemaking book that explained some of what was missing in ricki carroll's recipe (for example, the cheese is soaked in the brine for 2 hrs at room temp) but it was STILL a disaster. I've had success with other cheeses so this was my first big dissapointment. Have you figured out what went wrong? I would love to learn from you! Thanks, Sarah (Columbus, OH)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-56245622603918422282008-09-04T12:07:00.000-04:002008-09-04T12:07:00.000-04:00I have to agree with your assessment. I would love...I have to agree with your assessment. I would love to find a better cheesemaking book. I haven't had great success working out of the Carroll book at all, except for soft cheeses...brushfiremediahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02521586028349176566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-50065842032332606892008-09-04T12:06:00.000-04:002008-09-04T12:06:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13972744373279237759noreply@blogger.com