tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post8279501657274360696..comments2024-02-23T15:34:32.816-05:00Comments on The Mad Fermentationist - Homebrewing Blog: Rings of Light - Hazy Pale AleThe Mad Fermentationist (Mike)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-59298701063783313022020-07-17T11:23:54.590-04:002020-07-17T11:23:54.590-04:00Chris, no harm pushing your mash temp a few degree...Chris, no harm pushing your mash temp a few degrees higher if you are getting higher attenuation than you want. We've tweaked the recipe slightly a few times (things like hot-side hops) but have pretty much come back to the original just with a higher dry-hopping rate. The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-42422744032201570902020-07-13T11:41:42.761-04:002020-07-13T11:41:42.761-04:00First off thankyou for sharing this recipe. I'...First off thankyou for sharing this recipe. I've brewed this at least 5 times now,it's always on tap an always the first to kick when friends are around... <br />My question is have you Gents made many adjustments to this recipe since the first batch ? I always struggle with my yeast over attenuating 1.014 I mash high at 68c. Anyway just wondering if you have learnt any new tricks with this tasty brew. <br /><br />Cheers Chris .Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08992278091230787036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-81707525163831167852020-05-14T10:49:17.787-04:002020-05-14T10:49:17.787-04:00I'm pretty happy with the outcoming from this ...I'm pretty happy with the outcoming from this recipe.<br />I did a little tweeks considering hops in stock: centennial instead cascade, and dry hopping idaho7 and citra. Wheat malt instead chit and cheat and london ale III.<br />Awesome beer for sure, thank you for sharing it!Marcos Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12347788296630774293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-37895149372233820432020-04-13T15:34:47.318-04:002020-04-13T15:34:47.318-04:00Generally we do dry hop twice post soft-crash. Bur...Generally we do dry hop twice post soft-crash. Burp once a day for three days before dropping the cone. The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-58557060244095410282020-04-07T21:14:58.375-04:002020-04-07T21:14:58.375-04:00Are you guys still doing two dryhop additions when...Are you guys still doing two dryhop additions when doing a DDH? I know you previously stated you soft crashed the beer, extracted yeast, then pitched in the hops, is that still your procedure? How long of a contact time do you leave the DH in the beer and how many times do you bubble it? Cheers!<br /><br />ZachAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02280947492478417538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-52272059151899029272020-04-07T20:43:50.784-04:002020-04-07T20:43:50.784-04:00I don't trust IBU calculations, especially at ...I don't trust IBU calculations, especially at sub-boiling temperatures. I think the beer tastes closer to 40 IBUs despite what BeerSmith suggests. I'd suggest adjusting whirlpool temperature based on your system and target bitterness. The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-21229760984150310682020-04-07T10:41:17.553-04:002020-04-07T10:41:17.553-04:00Hi Mike, first, I apologize for writing in this ol...Hi Mike, first, I apologize for writing in this old post. at the moment,put my brew-o-matic software aside and install beersmtih 3.0.8. I charge your parameter I undestood (1100 Liter batch size, 68% bH efficiency, 60min of boils) and I put the recipe that you mention in this article, when I go to the hops it gives me: 43.2 ibus (5 kg) de cascade 7.2aa whirlpool 91 ° C 75 min and 72 ibus de columbus (5 kg) 12aa whirlpool 91 ° C 75 min. it´s a lot of ibus in my system!!!. if I did not do the math wrong, it gives me 9 gr / liter in whirlpool (10 kg/1100Liters)<br />What software do you use to calculate ibus in whirlpool?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09049478453992981288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-45266380882891032202020-03-09T15:51:52.118-04:002020-03-09T15:51:52.118-04:00I might even mash higher than that, it's a bee...I might even mash higher than that, it's a beer that works really well with a higher FG (~1.020).The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-60177286566895489692020-03-06T17:33:12.068-05:002020-03-06T17:33:12.068-05:00Just brewed this. Switched out the citra for calyp...Just brewed this. Switched out the citra for calypso and the chit malt for carafoam. Used wy1318 as suggested. Fantastic beer with loads of flavor. Finished out drier than I wanted at 1006 though which really amps up the hops. Mashed temp was 152. Maybe next time go with a higher mash temp like 156 to prevent it from drying out as much? Steven!https://www.blogger.com/profile/07036950521228264624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-77125490996119495132020-01-26T19:24:51.230-05:002020-01-26T19:24:51.230-05:00Cheers, we're brewing a second collab with Old...Cheers, we're brewing a second collab with Old Westminster in February! The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-53535480870973490622020-01-25T20:55:21.391-05:002020-01-25T20:55:21.391-05:00Thank you for the tip! Maybe I'll bump my dry...Thank you for the tip! Maybe I'll bump my dry hop up to 9 oz.<br /><br />I am hoping to make it to Sapwood this summer along with Old Westminster Winery.Paul Adairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-80162845875396684742020-01-25T14:56:33.991-05:002020-01-25T14:56:33.991-05:00Best of luck! For what it is worth our dry hop rat...Best of luck! For what it is worth our dry hop rate for Hallow Bright is 50% more than Rings of Light. Otherwise sounds like you are on the right track!The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-10348755888388720172020-01-23T22:38:41.159-05:002020-01-23T22:38:41.159-05:00Thanks! I was lead to this post from the Instagra...Thanks! I was lead to this post from the Instagram post of Hallow Bright. So I took the recipe for Rings of Light and subbed in all Citra, bumped grains for 6.5%ish. I’m using Imperial A20 citra. Plan is to dry hop 6 oz for 5 gallon around day 10. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07178374581798067888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-63707670315117629812020-01-21T22:04:18.440-05:002020-01-21T22:04:18.440-05:006 oz in 5 gallons? You certainly can reduce the ra...6 oz in 5 gallons? You certainly can reduce the rate, but if anything we are dry hopping our pale ales at a higher rate than we did at first. The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-40346940732549617842020-01-19T15:31:23.582-05:002020-01-19T15:31:23.582-05:00When I scale this recipe it calls for 6ish lbs or ...When I scale this recipe it calls for 6ish lbs or dry hop. After reading Scott’s book I’m considering reducing that number. <br /><br />Thoughts?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07178374581798067888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-49241120616429734672019-07-16T21:03:24.573-04:002019-07-16T21:03:24.573-04:00Are you accounting for the lower whirlpool tempera...Are you accounting for the lower whirlpool temperature? Even then I don't trust the output, the whirlpool hops just don't taste as bitter as the estimate suggests. The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-45536815987725617062019-07-14T13:50:27.394-04:002019-07-14T13:50:27.394-04:00Sorry if I missed it in the comments and or the ar...Sorry if I missed it in the comments and or the article but I just put this recipe into beersmith just as you have it and the IBUs are reading 108.5! I know you said 70+ but that does seem high. Is that normal? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-92007548124089778232019-04-11T19:24:23.681-04:002019-04-11T19:24:23.681-04:00We've had good luck with Citra-Azacca (Pillowf...We've had good luck with Citra-Azacca (Pillowfort), haven't done much with Azacca alone. Simcoe could certainly work well alone or in combo with Amarillo. The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-65515068008557774022019-04-11T14:55:49.447-04:002019-04-11T14:55:49.447-04:00Great to know you’ve done mosaic with the same ~15...Great to know you’ve done mosaic with the same ~15%+ of GNO with success. I guess my take away is really to be careful el dorado, it just did not play well in this recipe like I thought it might. Thanks for entertaining my experiments, your original recipe that I copied in the homebrew scale really turned out excellent. Any suggestions for what other cheapter dry hops might work with this grainbill? Simcoe? Azacca? Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00092541204666688452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-83248123834247646542019-04-11T09:48:44.828-04:002019-04-11T09:48:44.828-04:00Changing the yeast and dry hops is really two-thir...Changing the yeast and dry hops is really two-thirds of the character of the finished beer. <br /><br />You can certainly make a great beer without Citra, might just require other tweaks. We've used a similar base for an all-Mosaic beer (Danger of Light), and on tap now Galaxy-Mosaic-Citra (Lord of Light). <br /><br />El Dorado can be hit or miss for me, it does have more of that cherry thing that can weigh down a beer. Amarillo sounds like a good pairing for it, but I guess it didn't work out. <br /><br />The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-20164721009301332052019-04-10T17:51:25.382-04:002019-04-10T17:51:25.382-04:00I've made a 5g version of this beer with great...I've made a 5g version of this beer with great success <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Grain-Father-ASM-ONI-XUC-Grainfather-Connect/dp/B01N4WCWOK/ref=asc_df_B01N4WCWOK/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198083537724&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10550595860022724173&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061219&hvtargid=pla-318615984630&psc=1" rel="nofollow"> here</a> FG 1.009 but came out crisp, tropical and hoppy.<br /><br />But then I made a second version with a few more tweaks and it sucks major chit malt. I changed my dry hops to equal parts El dorado and Amarillo (i thought it seemed like a good sub) and I changed by yeast to Imperial juice. FG this time stayed higher at 1.016. It came out cloyingly toffee sweet as if the GNO is way too dominant and its missing all bright citrus elements and instead has the over ripe fruit flavors. What the heck? I couldn't believe it came out soo differently! <br /><br />Do you think this recipe or a similar excellent beer really requires citra in the dry hop?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00092541204666688452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-37791473266844938772019-03-18T10:18:56.461-04:002019-03-18T10:18:56.461-04:00I think of the contributions of chit malt more on ...I think of the contributions of chit malt more on a per-gallon basis rather than a percentage. In this case 1 bag per 10 bbl batch should have the same effect on the head. We did use double that rate in Cryovolcano, and I don't notice the head being appreciably better than any of our other beers. The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-17224862397347410712019-03-17T20:20:34.737-04:002019-03-17T20:20:34.737-04:00Did you see any benefit from going with 10% Chit a...Did you see any benefit from going with 10% Chit as opposed to 5% from your most recent Snip Snap? CheersAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02280947492478417538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-87864034559119610202019-03-17T19:45:33.198-04:002019-03-17T19:45:33.198-04:00AA% is part of it, in a lower gravity beer the Cas...AA% is part of it, in a lower gravity beer the Cascade helps to lower the bitterness. It also contains 4MMP, geraniol, and linalool. Columbus has some of the most "available" oils, in that it imparts them quickly and efficiently. Doesn't hurt that both varieties are widely available and inexpensive. <br /><br />You're certainly welcome to play with the whirlpool additions, our most recent batch of Rings of Light was all Idaho 7 in the whirlpool and we're really happy with it.The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-69575042748976803472019-03-17T09:23:09.055-04:002019-03-17T09:23:09.055-04:00Was there specific non-alpha-acid hop oil consider...Was there specific non-alpha-acid hop oil considerations when choosing Cascade and Columbus or was that just a cost/flavor/availability factor? I love the grist base for a hazy pale ale and the hop schedule but wondering if choosing different hops would adversely affect haze and aroma stability. I know Scott talks about some hop varieties over others. Would you keep the whirlpool the same and experiment/change the dry hop or are all the hops fungible?Robert Cantunoreply@blogger.com