tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post2545538321677112879..comments2024-02-23T15:34:32.816-05:00Comments on The Mad Fermentationist - Homebrewing Blog: American IPA - Hop Bills and AnalysisThe Mad Fermentationist (Mike)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-86722161730764598642017-01-18T09:20:10.472-05:002017-01-18T09:20:10.472-05:00Great list, very useful. I don't have storage ...Great list, very useful. I don't have storage capacity to keep a wide range of hops so need to pick carefully. This list seems to match my taste.<br /><br />I am sure I am missing out on some interesting hops by mainly going for the more frequently used ones. I've just done a couple of brews with Nelson Sauvin which is fantastic and unique but not something I'd use for every IPA I make.trabantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-34547225816063409262016-11-11T09:12:17.521-05:002016-11-11T09:12:17.521-05:00Thanks for the update! Haven't done a good job...Thanks for the update! Haven't done a good job keeping this page current!The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-51431371832335487732016-11-08T20:10:10.240-05:002016-11-08T20:10:10.240-05:00No cascade in FH Head Hunter for the last 5 years....No cascade in FH Head Hunter for the last 5 years. Cbus, simcoe, centennial pellet with simcoe & mosaic leaf in hopback.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-91485011583204922022013-08-27T01:28:04.921-04:002013-08-27T01:28:04.921-04:00What about Odell IPA? They use Simcoe, Amarillo, C...What about Odell IPA? They use Simcoe, Amarillo, Chinook, Cascade, Columbus, Perle and Centennial as per an email directly from Odell.Forrestnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-77046578784635093802013-06-04T20:10:02.646-04:002013-06-04T20:10:02.646-04:00Founders Double trouble is summit bittering then a...Founders Double trouble is summit bittering then amarillo/simcoe for everything else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-58746628720254695492013-03-09T07:40:56.017-05:002013-03-09T07:40:56.017-05:00For the Love of Hops has some interesting notes on...For the Love of Hops has some interesting notes on hop selection. I was blown away that Deschutes has turned down their favorite lots of certain hop varieties because they didn't match the standard profile of their beers. Seemed like you could find another use, especially with multiple systems!The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-19046550366219717952013-03-08T22:18:16.062-05:002013-03-08T22:18:16.062-05:00Another thing to consider is lot selection. We get...Another thing to consider is lot selection. We get multiple lots of, say, Centennial in a year, each of which have a distinct aroma. We have our #1 for dry hopping and then others for hot-side. <br /><br />We ran out of our DH centennial recently for a few days and had to dry hop a couple batches with another lot of Centennial from a different farm. We ran taste panels to see if there were noticeable differences in the beers (consider that this is one variety of 6 in the dry hop) and one was commonly perceived and more dank/oniony, while another was more fruity. <br /><br />I don't have extensive experience doing selection, but from what I understand, there is this type of range on most of the widely-grown aroma varieties. You can bet that the cascade that Sierra Nevada gets is not the same Cascade at Lagunitas is buying. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-54771440553188159302013-03-02T17:44:18.366-05:002013-03-02T17:44:18.366-05:00I've seen them posted online as quotes from Pa...I've seen them posted online as quotes from Pat and co. Certainly can't speak 100% to their accuracy, but they all make sense to me.The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-30850311560030044562013-03-02T16:42:05.965-05:002013-03-02T16:42:05.965-05:00Just curious about how you came up with the hop co...Just curious about how you came up with the hop combos for the Alpine beers. Alpine (Pat) has typically played it pretty close to the vest as far this sort thing is concerned. Anyway you could provide sources for that information? Any insight into the madness behind Alpine's method would be awesome. Great blog. Keep up the good work!Greg Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03302515700174364978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-68982573166961644902013-02-27T16:42:38.328-05:002013-02-27T16:42:38.328-05:00I forget where I got the hop bill from originally,...I forget where I got the hop bill from originally, I think I first brewed my version over 4 years ago. Their website says Warrior, Centennial and Cascade. <br /><br />Mine uses Columbus, Chinook, Centennial and Cascade. Columbus has been listed as a substitute for Warrior, and Chinook has been listed as a sub for Columbus, so I guess it makes sense. I have not done a side by side tasting for years, but in a double blind test, on the first batch, a local group of hopheads preferred the clone to the original 7-2. Of course I'm guessing the clone was fresher, if we had pulled the latest batch from the Three Floyd's brewery, we may have gotten slightly different results. <br /><br />http://noblesquarebrewing.blogspot.com/<br />Señor Brew™https://www.blogger.com/profile/16551091801092085016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-89195368894039514512013-02-26T18:18:24.608-05:002013-02-26T18:18:24.608-05:00I brewed a Hefe Weizen with Riwaka a couple years ...I brewed a <a href="http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2011/08/hoppy-riwaka-hefeweizen.html" rel="nofollow">Hefe Weizen with Riwaka</a> a couple years ago and really enjoyed it. According to Stan's Hops book they aren't pushing it much right now, allowing those breweries who use it now to continue, but not expanding exports. <br /><br />As far as I know the Heady Topper in BYO isn't based on the actual recipe, it was brewed as a beer inspired by the flavor. Not enough for me to add the hops to the list.<br /><br />Thanks for all the other suggestions as well!The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-43334452067515460082013-02-26T17:06:56.943-05:002013-02-26T17:06:56.943-05:00PtE link rot.
Should be...
http://russianriverbre...PtE link rot.<br /><br />Should be...<br />http://russianriverbrewing.com/brews/pliny-the-elder/Herb Meowingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-71244519236538144012013-02-26T11:55:36.318-05:002013-02-26T11:55:36.318-05:00Nice list, Mike. This month's BYO features a ... Nice list, Mike. This month's BYO features a Heady Topper clone, and that beer clearly qualifies as a good IPA. I don't have the issue on me, but I think the hop bill reconfirms the predominance of the big seven. Lawson's has great IPAs that would probably lend some diversity to list of hops used.<br /><br /> Another potentially interesting list (and I'm not asking you to take this on) would be a list of hops used in foreign renditions of American IPA. Sometimes I try a Belgian or Danish or even Japanese version and say, "Yep, that tastes nothing like an American IPA and it's not just the yeast." Sometimes the foreign American IPAs are pretty similar or better than what I'd get from an American brewery.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13638075762641796616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-5291621518713636912013-02-26T11:09:11.819-05:002013-02-26T11:09:11.819-05:00Very cool list - thanks for sharing. I was surpri...Very cool list - thanks for sharing. I was surprised to see Falconers Flight made it into a commercial beer already (although I shouldn't be I guess).<br /><br />Riwaka was the only other hop that caught me offguard, mainly as this was the first time I've hear of it. What do you know of that hop?<br /><br />-JWJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07595986732198305751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-52933186454170098392013-02-26T09:14:07.014-05:002013-02-26T09:14:07.014-05:00Captain Lawrence Double IPA most certainly has Sim...Captain Lawrence Double IPA most certainly has Simcoe, in the dry hop. I cribbed that info right off the clipboard on the brewhouse at the brewery about 2 weeks ago.Beer Crafterhttp://www.twitter.com/beer_crafternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-27897372484952075542013-02-26T09:11:36.086-05:002013-02-26T09:11:36.086-05:00Would it be interesting to make a model with hop v...Would it be interesting to make a model with hop varieties, total number of hops and how they influence the IPAs rating on ratebeer? Could try to do an analysis on that.Kennethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447025819092861088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-44829323517617321812013-02-26T08:12:10.174-05:002013-02-26T08:12:10.174-05:00What about Maine Beer Co.'s Lunch? Pretty darn...What about Maine Beer Co.'s Lunch? Pretty darned tasty IPA.<br /><br />They list their hops as Warrior, Amarillo, Centennial and Simcoe.Shawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08469375277267237839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-67661340953882903722013-02-26T00:18:22.091-05:002013-02-26T00:18:22.091-05:00Great post Mike, bookmarked. Not so bold predicti...Great post Mike, bookmarked. Not so bold prediction: this one sees a lot of traffic.dcHokiehttp://www.homebrewtalk.com/members/dcHokie/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-24164286716032660332013-02-25T22:22:31.920-05:002013-02-25T22:22:31.920-05:00One of my favorites that isn't on this list is...One of my favorites that isn't on this list is Columbus Brewing Company's Bodhi. It is definitely one of the most outstanding DIPAs I've had. That being said, I don't know the hop bill. I might give the brewery a call to see what I can find.Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-26944010548291199862013-02-25T21:25:36.251-05:002013-02-25T21:25:36.251-05:00thanks! I enjoy seeing hop stats all in one place....thanks! I enjoy seeing hop stats all in one place. it will be fun to see how these register in my brain next time I brew.beefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14238922271857358995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-25347067489075152592013-02-25T20:47:11.528-05:002013-02-25T20:47:11.528-05:00Where did the hop bill for your Alpha King come fr...Where did the hop bill for your Alpha King come from? There were plenty of beers that were left off the list because I couldn't find a hop bill (not a judgement on their quality).The Mad Fermentationist (Mike)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07379932734747507258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8066877917844499643.post-35163964828839677902013-02-25T20:34:38.726-05:002013-02-25T20:34:38.726-05:00I didn't see Three Floyd's Alpha King on t...I didn't see Three Floyd's Alpha King on the list, although they do classify it as an APA, not an IPA. I would argue it is in between. In fact, I've entered my version as both, and won 1st in both categories--in the Maltose Falcons Mayfaire comp last year. I love that hop combination, here's my take on it:<br /><br />http://noblesquarebrewing.blogspot.com/2009/08/omega-king-recipe.htmlSeñor Brew™https://www.blogger.com/profile/16551091801092085016noreply@blogger.com